Martin Hackett: My Mum was a girl racer, my Grandads Granada, My Dad's Stanza and Bluebird and the Golf that went through the garage! S5E6

We're joined by Andy's friend Martin Hackett who has plenty of great stories to share.
His earliest car memory is a Ford Granada belonging to his Grandfather, who used to drive down from Scotland to see him on the South Coast, then take him back again to spend the school holidays.
His Mum drove a peppermint green Mk1 Fiesta Sport, and was a bit of a girl racer.
His Dad has Nissan Stanza's and Bluebirds, and van he used for work.
Later on his Mum bought a brand new Yugo 45, and then a VW Golf Mk2 which Martin had a bit of an incident with involving a garage! 
Later on, as a bit of a bonus Martin discloses how he and some school friends had shares in a car when they were 14 or 15, and they would drive it to nightclubs, and they even got jump started by the Police one night when it failed to start!!

Martin runs a number of businesses which may be of interest to you.
Paint protection specialists - Paint Protection Film & Ceramic Coating Services in West Sussex
Ceramic Coating - WAX IS DEAD® - Professional One Layer Ceramic Coatings
and lighting supplier - Hexagon Lighting Systems - Hexi-Grid LED Lighting - UK Company

Transcript

>> Martin Hackett: 0:00

No, no, they didn't take me to court. My parents. Luckily she was a bit of a girl racer, I guess. Welcome to My dad's Car. Enjoy.

>> Andy: 0:16

Welcome to My Dad's Car. A podcast discussing our personal relationship with automotive nostalgia. And you know what? It doesn't even have to be about your dad's car. It can be your mom'your grand, your parents, guardians or even a neighbourss if it made an impression. Let's talk about it.

>> Jon: 0:39

Good'day.

>> Andy: 0:39

How's it going? You right?

>> Jon: 0:41

Yeah, just about a bit hot. Very hot today.

>> Andy: 0:44

Yeah. Been on the tools.

>> Jon: 0:46

On the tools? Yeah, It's a bit of a, bit of a rush to get here but I'm here now so it's all co. Good. How's your week been?

>> Andy: 0:53

yeah, not too bad. I. Oh, two seconds. We've got Martin Phus. The first time we've had a live calling.

>> Jon: 0:58

But who wants to be a millionaire?

>> Andy: 1:00

Hello, mate.

>> Martin Hackett: 1:00

I don't know what's going on. My laptop won't let me update the zoom so I'm just going to try it on my main computer. But it hasn't got a camera. Is that going to be a big deal?

>> Andy: 1:08

No, that's right. We can work off that or we can do it on your phone if you want to do it on your phone.

>> Martin Hackett: 1:11

Gone and bought a headset and got it all plugged in and everything. And then my laptop's playing about. What would you prefer? Would you prefer to see my beautiful face? If so, I'll just do it on.

>> Andy: 1:19

My phonee Your phone's fine. It's easier if we can see you because if we've said something offensive, then we can tell of you're crying.

>> Martin Hackett: 1:26

Right, okay, mate, give us two minutes then and I'll do it on my phone. All right? I'm sorry'all.

>> Andy: 1:30

Right. It's fine.

>> Jon: 1:31

Really enjoyed that.

>> Andy: 1:35

I don't know whether any of that will make the cut. It might be quite funny.

>> Martin Hackett: 1:38

Behave. Do you know what, mate? Honestly, I'm like, this is ridiculous. How do I do it? So I can see everyone then, Andy. Oh, there we go, look.

>> Andy: 1:47

Look at that, we've got you.

>> Jon: 1:48

Pleased to meet you, Martin.

>> Martin Hackett: 1:49

Yeah, nice to meet you too.

>> Andy: 1:51

So Martin's a, resident of Bogna and the surrounding areas, John. So you've probably frequented similar places in the past.

>> Martin Hackett: 1:57

I would have thought so.

>> Jon: 1:59

Chic's man, Martin.

>> Martin Hackett: 2:00

Oh, yes. Back in the day, mate. Chics. Some Thursdays.

>> Jon: 2:03

Beautiful. Yeah, I can still smell it on.

>> Andy: 2:08

The bottom of your shoes.

>> Jon: 2:09

Yeah, I think I lost a few pairs of shoes in there. Couldn't get them off the floor.

>> Martin Hackett: 2:13

Yeah, yeah, know exactly that. Exactly.

>> Andy: 2:16

That probably brings us on to. For the benefit of the tape, we are joined by Martin Hackett, who, I've known for 20 summ something years at least. Years and years and years ago. I think you used to make the stickers for ZBeast, which was the car club I ran. Little Matt used to come over and do the stickers with you.

>> Martin Hackett: 2:33

That's right, I sure did.

>> Andy: 2:35

And that was early Nughties. And then, Yeah, when John and I were working at the Cash parts shop, which won't be named, used to come in as a customer and kind of have a chat with us.

>> Martin Hackett: 2:45

Yeah, yeah.

>> Andy: 2:46

We go back quite a while.

>> Martin Hackett: 2:47

Yeah. Long, long, long, long time. Yeah. And we seem to be seeing each other a lot more these days, don't we? Over the last few years we've seen each other a load indeed.

>> Andy: 2:55

Yeah. We're beenah playing Porsches. Do you want to give your ventures a. A quick shout out for. For those who are listening?

>> Martin Hackett: 3:01

Yeah, I mean, I can do. So basically, with the pure passion for cars, I set up a company called Fresh Layers, that ceramic coating and PPF specialists. And we also, with that decided to create our own product brand, which is Wax is Dead.

>> Jon: 3:16

Okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 3:16

We've been doing that for a few years now. And that's sort of global. That's doing really well. And then as a sideline, I started up just before COVID hit, a lighting company which was only meant to be a bit of a sideline, but, it's ended up taking over my life. Yeah, that's it really.

>> Andy: 3:31

So the lighting thing you didn't meant. Is it hexagon lighting?

>> Martin Hackett: 3:34

Yeah, hexagon lighting. Yeah, that's right, yeah.

>> Jon: 3:36

Was that for like the ceilings of detailing studios, that sort of thing and.

>> Martin Hackett: 3:40

Yeah, yeah, exactly. You've probably seen them.

>> Jon: 3:42

Yeah, yeah.

>> Andy: 3:43

Cool. So, yeah, we'll jump into it. What's your, earliest car memory?

>> Martin Hackett: 3:48

My granddad's, Ford Granada Scorpio.

>> Andy: 3:52

Okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 3:53

So I would have said that probably is my first memory. I mean, my granddad used to live up in Scotland and, he loved his cars. and he would always like, come and drive down from Scotland to the south to pick us up and, quite interesting. He was a heavy smoker. so the car was always like, something from Stars in Their Eyes. He'd open the door and then the smoke would come bellowing out. You know how it should Be. Yeah, well, ex. Exactly that. You know, get out. Absolutely stinking. But I think that's probably my first memory. He had a, Granada Scorpio, I think it was a Scorpio. Was. It was a.

>> Jon: 4:26

What year we talking night?

>> Martin Hackett: 4:28

It's got to be 1987, something like that.

>> Andy: 4:30

The rounded one, not the Cortina shape, but the first of the rounded ones. It like a fat Sierra?

>> Martin Hackett: 4:37

Yeah, it was like a fat Sierra. Yes. Sure. It was like seven or eight at the time when he had that. But the reason I remember that car so well, and I think Andy, I touched base with the other day. I remember him having me and my sister in the car. And, he'd left the windows down and we went through an automated car wash. And, you could say we got rather soaked. And, you know, this was just so he could carry on smoking a cigarette while he was. You know, because that's what he used to do. He wouldn't take a breath. He was smoking all the time. So, yeah, we got rather wet. And, it was pandemonium, to be fair. My sister was a lot younger than me, so she was screaming. And, back then, they didn't have the technology to stop it. So we're all trying to roll up the windows. And I mean, when. I mean, we got soaked. We got absolutely soaked. So that's kind of why I remember that car.

>> Jon: 5:23

O. It didn't charge you for the interior clean as well as the exterior.

>> Martin Hackett: 5:26

Well, exactly. And it was that. And then kind of. That went on to my granddad's second car, which was, a little Metro vandom pla.

>> Andy: 5:33

Nice.

>> Martin Hackett: 5:34

It was lovely little thing. Velour interior, metallic blue with a walnut. Yeah, but it comes back to. It's crazy to remember all this, really, but cigarettes yet again. And, he used to feel the ashtray in that to the brim. And I remember him one day taking the ashtray out while he was driving, putting it through the window. And of course, you know what's going to happen. Everything. All the ash just came back into the back of the car and covered us. Oh, no, it was just, Yeah, they're kind of my first real memories of sort of going out in cars and. Yeah, I'd say that's probably my first two memories. But like I say, since I was tiny cars, I have just been my life. M. As you well know now and then it sort of went from one extreme to the other with family cars, really.

>> Andy: 6:17

What colour was the Granada?

>> Martin Hackett: 6:19

White.

>> Andy: 6:19

White, okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 6:20

Yeah, it was a white. It was A white one. White was sort of a stained yello interior. A tobacco kinded interior.

>> Jon: 6:29

Nicotine.

>> Martin Hackett: 6:30

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then he upgraded to a Vanden Pla Moestro.

>> Andy: 6:35

Oh that's. That's a strange jump, isn't it? M Was it Maestro or Metro he had?

>> Martin Hackett: 6:40

So he went from the Granada because basically my grand stopped going out in the car of him so much so he decided he didn't need such a big car. So then he went and got this, the little Metro which was lovely. And then he loved the Metro so much he went and got himself a black Maestro.

>> Andy: 6:53

Okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 6:54

Which was again the random ply Maestro which was just basically a step up, wasn't it? From the Metro?

>> Andy: 6:58

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 6:59

But I remember that being really cool.

>> Jon: 7:00

Benardo to Metro is like five bedroom detached house to one bed studio. And't it sort of downgrade in terms of size?

>> Martin Hackett: 7:07

Yeah, exactly. Pretty bonkers really. But to be fair with him before that I only distantly remember it from photos really. He had ah, a mini estate, like a proper Mark 1 mini estate. Sory, not a state a minian because he was a painter and decorator and that was his like car stroke work van and he actually wrote that off by hitting an arctic lorry and luckily he was all right. But yeah, he went from that and then thought I'm going to get something a bit safer. Yeah, went for the Granada, and then went from the Granada back to a Metro and then went back to a moist growth. I think his last car ended up being a little loopho. So very different in sizes. But yeah, that was kind of my first memories of cars.

>> Jon: 7:46

Do you know what his tobacco of choice was?

>> Martin Hackett: 7:49

Do you know what? I can't I remember but cigarettes. Yeah, it was cigarettes. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So I remember that it was a red and white packet he always used to have.

>> Jon: 8:01

But I'm not Embassy.

>> Martin Hackett: 8:02

Would it be Embassy or Mulborough?

>> Jon: 8:04

Yeah, one of the two.

>> Martin Hackett: 8:05

I don't know. I mean I'm going backill. I was sort of seven years.

>> Jon: 8:08

Did he have quite a bad cough?

>> Martin Hackett: 8:10

Do you know what? He didn't. I think he used to drink enough whiskey for it not to dry the throat.

>> Jon: 8:16

Right. Thinking man.

>> Martin Hackett: 8:20

He was a full on scot. He was like rahine esbeit basically. He was hilarious. And even at the age of like 75 he was still doing the splits on the floor and stuff. So yeah, he was quite a crazy man really. And he was one of those. If he went into a room, you know, he was there. He Was a character and a half, shall we say?

>> Jon: 8:36

Excellent.

>> Andy: 8:37

Wonder what the policy is on tobacco advertising on podcasts. We've done quite a bit recently.

>> Jon: 8:42

It could come full a circle. Could be our big break.

>> Martin Hackett: 8:44

Yeah, it's quite funnyn't it?

>> Andy: 8:45

Could be a loophole, couldn'we'd have to hit them up.

>> Martin Hackett: 8:48

To be fair though then it was just one of the things, wasn't it? I mean, him and my grand would literally just chain smoke. You know, we'd be in the back of the car, you know, and it. The windows would be down. But that's just how it was, wasn't it? It's weird because my mu and dad didn't smoke, but it was just part of life for me. I didn't really understand it all back then. I suppose not, you know, it just what we did, wasn't it?

>> Jon: 9:07

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 9:07

Now vape things so, you know, do they smell better?

>> Andy: 9:10

So your granddad had come down from Scotland. Would you go back up and stay with him then? Or would he d stay down on the coast for a bit?

>> Martin Hackett: 9:16

No, no. Basically what would happen is summer holidays. My parents both worked a lot, so my mum would either take me up there on a stagecoach and then sort of go back and then he would drop us back down or he would just come and pick us up, stay here in the Sussex for a day or two and then I'd go up there for five weeks at a time. I used to love it.

>> Andy: 9:32

Oh, wow. Okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 9:33

Yeah. Then it goes to my father's cars really. And he had quite an interesting collection which I'm sure will have been mentioned many a times on the podcasts.

>> Andy: 9:42

Let's come to those in a second. I've got some more questions on your granddads s okay. Did he listen to the radio? What was he listening to?

>> Martin Hackett: 9:48

Do you know what he used to have? Mainly cassette tapes. He was massively into Frank Sinatra.

>> Andy: 9:54

Okay.

>> Jon: 9:55

Blue Eyes.

>> Martin Hackett: 9:56

So we used to listen to Frank Sinatra all the time and he would just sing along to it. So that was basically what we had to deal with all the time. Which, to be fair, you know, probably wasn't bad then. M yeah, that's kind of all I really remember. I don't remember the radio. I just remember him chucking his Fran and Arra tapes on.

>> Andy: 10:13

Cool. Sorry, yeah, I interrupted you mentioning your father, but I thought we'll just find out a little bit more. Got to set the scene with your granddad's car. what was your dad driving? I'm guessing your mum didn't drive if she was taking you to Scotland on the bus?

>> Martin Hackett: 10:25

No, my mum didn't drive for a long time. So my first memory is my dad had a Nissan Stanza.

>> Andy: 10:32

Okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 10:33

Metallic green with a, brown velour interior. It was, yeah, it was a cool car.

>> Andy: 10:38

Were they sort of between a Sunny and a Bluebird, is that right?

>> Martin Hackett: 10:41

Well, this is where is the story thickens. Exactly that. So'yeah? Exactly that. So the Stanza had a boot. It was sort of more of a square. And back in the day, I always remember Halfford used to sell the old double pinstripes, didn't they?

>> Jon: 10:55

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 10:56

So he would kind of do that to all his cars. So he like got the mat###ing pinstripe, like a Goldie colored to match the interior. Just used to watch him there on a Saturday. As soon as he got his car, that was his little thing. Go to Halfford, yeah. Get the pintriipes, you know, put them on and that was that. But I always remember being a really luxurious car because obviously the velour, you know, I think it's cool now, but, you know, back then it was just, yeah, it, it just felt posh.

>> Andy: 11:20

I see. Surreptitiously you've been influenced with your choice of sofa and cushion there.

>> Martin Hackett: 11:25

Exactly.

>> Andy: 11:26

It'the green and gold for law.

>> Martin Hackett: 11:28

Yeah. Well, to be fair, that's actually very fitting. Yeah. My wife's choice. But yeah, I do like a bit of all lure, I won't lie. So that sort of carried on Iose. So, yeah, so we went from that and then for us, period, he went and got himself a, Mark 3 escort.

>> Andy: 11:46

Okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 11:46

And, I always remember that because it was like brick red. So it was like an orange or red. And again, he did the same, you know, put twin stripes down the sides of that, the little pint strpes. And I always remember he had that for quite a while. And I remember at the time, you know, it was the thing that most kids, they wanted their dad to have the XR3. I didn't they all the RS Turbo. And I remember always saying to him, mark, can we get a set of, you know, the R'WHEELS or the pepper pots? And eventually we ended up getting a set of pepper pots for it. And then I just remember thinking, yeah, it looks so much better now. And it's, it's so funny. Suppose it was quite cool then. But obviously, you know, no drop or anything. Standard height, you know, your little 1.3. And it was on those. But, you know, it's just something I nagged him and nagged him for ages and in the end he ended up getting aself a friend of his. So yeah, it was my idea of having an XR3 because we couldn't afford one of them so we just had the wheels.

>> Andy: 12:40

Would he be buying them from a dealer or do you remember or like.

>> Martin Hackett: 12:43

Second handd or do you know what I ve reallyaguely remember going to W Jones which is a dealer in Bogna and they've been there since beginning of time. Yeah, exactly. And I remember going in there into the showroom and you know at the time there Fiestas and Escorts and Sierras and that. And yeah, I remember us going in there to get it very vaguely. But yeah, I remember it was like a thing for him and it was weird because we'd had the Stanza for so long being such a reliable car. The reason he ended up with that because a friend of his used to run the Nissan garage over and I think it was sh and way. Then we went from that to the Escort which was again I didn't really understand why but we did. As mad as it may seem, it almost felt like to me, you know the Stanza was really like luxurious and whatnot but the Escort it just wasn't. I think it was a bit more sporty for him. Yeah, he wasn't really into cars like I am but you know he always liked to keep them clean and he always liked to look after them. So yeah, then we went to another one after that. So yeah. Weird.

>> Andy: 13:42

Is your dad or is your mom'still around?

>> Martin Hackett: 13:44

Yeah, yeah, they're both still around. Yeah. My mum's first car was quite an interesting Carl.

>> Andy: 13:49

Okay, we'll come to that bit later then.

>> Martin Hackett: 13:50

Yeah, that's really cool car that was actually. It's probably one of the coolest cars my family's ever owned.

>> Andy: 13:54

So that's for everyone to keep hanging on. Well, let's not drop that one yet. You got to listen to the end I'm afraid guys. Yeah, so yeah, Mark three Escort, what was after that?

>> Martin Hackett: 14:03

So he got fed up with that and then decided to go back to Nissan. So we ended up with this Nissan Bluebird.

>> Andy: 14:09

Okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 14:10

Yeah, it was lovely. So again going back to the old car colors they had then it was like this pale metallic blue. Yeah, it was a brilliant car and I can't remember how the ranges were but it was their top of the range.

>> Jon: 14:21

Nice.

>> Martin Hackett: 14:21

So you know, even had electric front windows which you know was a bit of a rarity then you know, in a sunroof. Ye because everyone had the old Brit XX they did the sunroof didn't they? Yeah but I think for memory the Nissan had a proper sunroof in it and Yeah my dad was a drummer and a band and he got heavily into that at one point.

>> Andy: 14:38

O cool.

>> Martin Hackett: 14:39

So he needed the Bluebird for big boot space the Escort just could do it. He was always taking the back seats down and he just couldn't quite fit it in. So they ended up getting Bluebirds that had a massive boot in it and obviously the seats went down so yeah good memor of that.

>> Jon: 14:52

Oh it's a shared the Bluebird with taxi firms back in the 90s. Yeah I seem to remember my mother getting us a taxi down to Safeewways via Ace Taxis.

>> Martin Hackett: 15:01

Oh yeah, the old Safeeway. Yeah yeah that's right And I think they were just a sort of car that you'd know would be reliable and it an auto. No it wasn't, it was a manual. No but I just remember him getting because I think from, from memory the indicators were on the other side being the Nissan from the Ford and he'd been used to driving the Ford we had that for quite a while and he was always you know I used to remember him not allowed to you know swear on it but I remember him m cursing quite a lot. You it took him so long to get used to sort of putting the indicators on and the light switches were different and I always used to remember him he was quite short tempered so yeah it was quite funny really but yeah just silly little memory really.

>> Andy: 15:42

I remember back in the day of kind of scrapyards where you could wander around and they were all piled high picking up the bonnet vent and the rear wing vents off Bluebirds.

>> Martin Hackett: 15:51

That's right yeah I ended up with.

>> Andy: 15:52

A set of those that had visions of grafting them into a bumper or a bonnet or something. Yeah yeah I don't know where it would been the kind of yeah muddles or there was one down your way.

>> Martin Hackett: 16:02

Wasn'T there the gate scrap YD yeah.

>> Andy: 16:04

That was there yeah or bridges up at Peas Pottage perhaps but that's right yeah yeah I remember I had a red bonnet event off a blue but we'd walk around and we'd be like oh that'd be good you just undo it and you'd buy it for a 5.

>> Martin Hackett: 16:17

Never do anything with it. Yeah but yeah so from there my dad ended up having that car for a long time and then my mum passed her test and I suppose she Ended up with the cool car really.

>> Andy: 16:27

What sort of age were you when your mum passed a test?

>> Martin Hackett: 16:29

I'm trying to think. My mum didn't start till pretty late so I think I was probably 12, 13 at the time.

>> Andy: 16:34

So did she start driving because of work or to take you to school or just because she wanted to?

>> Martin Hackett: 16:40

No, I think she just wanted to start driving for own independence and feel love Shopp. So I think it was just a case of my dad would work quite long hours, you see, and then at the weekends he'd be out gigging, so they would d be in the band. So Fridays and Saturday nights quite often or you know, majority of the Saturdays. So if he wasn't practicising, basically she couldn't get out the house where she wanted to go and we lived in Barnum at the time, so obviously yeah, we had the train but I think it was just a case that she just wanted to have her own independence and eventually my grandparents moved down here, you see, she wanted to go and see them quite often and her sister moved down as well so the whole family ended up moving down to this area and I think it was just a case of being out to get about. So yeah, that's kind of where we, we started with that.

>> Andy: 17:20

So I don't know the answer to this and obviously John doesn't know either. it's a cool car. Should we.

>> Martin Hackett: 17:25

Well, I think it's the cool car.

>> Andy: 17:26

Should we have a suggestion? Martin's kind of 12ish.

>> Jon: 17:29

I'm intrigued.

>> Andy: 17:31

I'm going for a Nova.

>> Martin Hackett: 17:32

No.

>> Andy: 17:33

What do d you reckon, John?

>> Jon: 17:34

I'm gonna go for a Golf.

>> Martin Hackett: 17:36

No, she ended up with one of them but we'll tell you that story is even better.

>> Andy: 17:45

Renault 5?

>> Martin Hackett: 17:46

No.

>> Jon: 17:47

Olo.

>> Martin Hackett: 17:47

No.

>> Andy: 17:48

Okay, can'then I give up.

>> Martin Hackett: 17:49

Right, so it was a Ford Fiesta 1300 Sport.

>> Andy: 17:54

Oh, nice.

>> Martin Hackett: 17:54

But it was peppermint green with a abouto roof.

>> Andy: 17:59

What, Mark one? I guess.

>> Martin Hackett: 18:00

Yes.

>> Andy: 18:01

Yeah, okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 18:02

It was brilliant, mate. I mean she bought it from Shoreham Car Auctions so it obviously had a few issues. You know, it was the things my mum wanted it. It was really bright, I mean, peppermint green and it had like stripes along the bottom with 1300 sport or whatever it was and the whole roof was black canvas.

>> Andy: 18:19

Yah.

>> Martin Hackett: 18:20

and I just remember her getting at home but you know, we soon found out that the boot floor where the spare wheel was rotten and it had to be welded up straight away and. But she had that for quite a while and it was just, it was such a cool car.

>> Jon: 18:32

Who went to the auction, Martin, to get it?

>> Martin Hackett: 18:35

Just my mum and dad.

>> Jon: 18:36

Okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 18:36

I didn't get to see it till they got home, but they went and I'm pretty sure at the time my dad wasn't too keen on and her getting it. One, it was her first car and, you know, quite a nippy little thing. And two, the colour back then was H. So, you know, you wouldn't have got away with anything, that's for sure. Because, I mean, you'd park it up anywhere and you wouldn't be missed. It was so bright. I don't think I ever saw another one like it. Yeah, really rare, Obviously, being a 1300 sport, it was quite a rare car. And they're probably worth some money now.

>> Jon: 19:02

Any pictures in existence, Martin, or is it just a memory?

>> Martin Hackett: 19:06

Do you know what? There might be? I'd have to ask my mum. She's probably got photos. But it'd be brilliant to see it.

>> Andy: 19:12

Yeah, definitely.

>> Martin Hackett: 19:13

Because, you know that sort of thing where you shut your eyes and you can remember it out the back of a little parking compound where we lived in. Bu it was always at the end and it would just stick out from everything, you know, remember getting dropped off in it and everybod like, blimey, your mum doesn't want to be Ms. Kind of Things. It'like no, she doesn't, but I do. But know it was a cool car. It really was. And that's sort of, you know, it was wicked.

>> Andy: 19:34

I'm guessing, kind of back in that time. That was probably fluke. They probably weren't aware that that car was going on through the auction that day.

>> Martin Hackett: 19:41

No way.

>> Andy: 19:42

It was just a case that they went to buy a car and she fell in love with that one.

>> Martin Hackett: 19:45

Yeah, exactly. I mean, she.

>> Andy: 19:47

It could have been anything, but.

>> Martin Hackett: 19:48

No, that's right. 100%. She just wanted a little Fiesta and, you know, that one come about and the fact that it was a bit sporty and she's always liked her cars, my mum. She. She's far more of a petrol head than my dad, so she's kind of ended up with it and it was, you know, we'd love to have it in the garage now, shall we say?

>> Andy: 20:04

Yeah, okay. Yeah, let's kind of get back into that car. Was she one for kind of radio cassette? Singing along yes.

>> Martin Hackett: 20:10

So her thing was Gloria, Ester fan.

>> Andy: 20:13

Okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 20:13

She used to love a bit of Wham.

>> Andy: 20:15

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 20:15

Bit of Gloria est the fan and. And, Yeah, it was mainly that kind of thing. The proper 80s, you know. My mum was a proper 80s for each. She loved it. Yeah. As soon as we got in the car, there'd be, you know, Madonna on George Micha or anything like that. And she'd always have it loud. Yeah, she was a bit of a girl racer, I guess.

>> Jon: 20:34

Excellent.

>> Andy: 20:35

So, yeah, what followed the, Fiesta?

>> Martin Hackett: 20:37

Well, she went from that to, another Fiesta. So she just went for a little pale blue Marki Fiesta.

>> Andy: 20:43

Okay.

>> Martin Hackett: 20:43

that was a bit of, sort of a bit more boring. But at the time it was quite an upgrade for her and she just wanted something a little bit more modern. I think the little green machine had got. It was constantly having to have welding done on it and stuff. Even back then it wasn't, you know, the greatest car. I think it was one of those cars that someone had used the old. Or was that Fibrelass everyone used to.

>> Andy: 21:02

Use with the red P30, P48. Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 21:05

Ah, exactlye. It was. It was one of those cars, you know, and I think even my dad added a bit to it. The old aerosol cans to them. Yeah, we went from that to a nicer, more recent Fiesta sort of thing. It was still a Mark 2 Fiesta, but. Yeah, that was cool. Always remember those engines because if we could talk about it later, because it's kind of one of my first driving experiences was in one of those and, you just be able to rev them things and for a one litre they would just rev and rev and rev and they always had the same smell and the same sound tap it special. Yeah, exactly. But they were brilliant. Like they were an engine that you could just. They never seemed to go wrong, they just revved and revved.

>> Andy: 21:41

I vaguely remember a kid I went to school with, I think his mum had a gold mark. Won Fiesta with a brown vinyl roof and it had some sort of Brownie graphics on the side.

>> Martin Hackett: 21:50

Lovely.

>> Andy: 21:51

And yeah, I think you're right with the smell. It smell of hot plastic, basically. Plastic dashboard in the sun. Yeah, it's basically what it smelled of.

>> Martin Hackett: 21:57

Exactly that. But always remember that sort of smell. It you never kind of forget. It's always, you know, when you go to car shows now and you get in an old car that's original, it's the first thing you sort of notice is the smellah. You just sort of smell it and you go, yeah, that smells like 1980s.

>> Jon: 22:11

My brother had a Mark 2 Fiesta, baby blue and it previous owner installed like a sort of graphic equalizer in the passenger sort of dash bit. Didn't really do anything it just sort of lit up. But source of great excitement.

>> Martin Hackett: 22:26

Oh, exactly. Back then, anything like that was. I just remember the radios with the two big knobs on it and the cassette playing and that was basically it, what it had.

>> Andy: 22:33

Yeah. The other thing I remember from that Fiesta, actually, I'm sure it had a fake alarm. It had like this little sort of two pronged black plastic thing which stuck on the center of the dashboard.

>> Martin Hackett: 22:44

That's right. So it looked like it was alarm but it was just two LED lights.

>> Andy: 22:47

Or it was an air freshener. A make along those lines.

>> Martin Hackett: 22:49

Yeah, I remember those. Brilliant. Yeah, I remember that blime me. I think that was a bit of a craze actually for a while. Want it and then you had the stick on bullet holes.

>> Andy: 23:00

I remember the people having them. Yeah.

>> Jon: 23:02

But they just have real ones now, don't they? I think.

>> Martin Hackett: 23:05

Yeah, you're right, they do, yeah.

>> Andy: 23:06

I remember going to like a big we. My dad used to call it the warehouse and my dad was a car trimmer so he was in the trade and there was this big like automotive parts warehouse, I guess a little bit like I work at now to some extent. Although if you were in the trade you could get there, you could pick up your like cash and carry type thing. You get a trolley, you walk around and they had like aisles and aisles of just tacky stickers. I remember coming home with like luminous green turbo stickers and like that sort of thing. Like if you wanted a Fido Daio you could have it in every size possible.

>> Martin Hackett: 23:36

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

>> Andy: 23:37

And yeah, those sort of things are fake alarms. And he got into doing, I want to say it was called Foxg Guard. I might be wrong, the alarms. So he did a bit of that. He used to fit like sunroofs and stuff. But

>> Jon: 23:48

Yeah, those fake alarms they still get cash and carries. There was one marin in Barnum that my dad used to use. I don't know if you remember it.

>> Martin Hackett: 23:54

Yeah, it's still there.

>> Jon: 23:56

Nerdan and Peacocks Think it was calledol.

>> Martin Hackett: 23:57

Yeah. Opposite the train station.

>> Jon: 23:59

Not still there, is it?

>> Martin Hackett: 24:00

Yeah, it's still there. Yeah.

>> Jon: 24:02

Unbelievable. Yeah, that's where it was. Opposite train station.

>> Martin Hackett: 24:05

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

>> Jon: 24:06

Used to have a littlem, petrol station there as well, I think back in the day.

>> Martin Hackett: 24:09

Yeah, it did. I mean now they've got the conservatory place out the front, but out the back it's still a cash and carry and I by all accounts I think still good bargains to Be had.

>> Jon: 24:17

All right.

>> Martin Hackett: 24:19

Yeah.

>> Andy: 24:20

So, yeah, we're graduating from Mark Tooher. Where are we going after that?

>> Martin Hackett: 24:24

Well, then something took a turn which was rather weird. she went and got herself a hu Go. Yeah, I know. I'm not really sure why. All I remember at the time, she had had the Fiesta a while and she had a bit of a scare in the Fiesta and it had a whack and she ended up deciding that she wanted something hilarious. She wanted something strong. So she was scared about getting hurt in the car. So some bloke that was up the road from us told her about the Hugo and how it was strong and the metal and the rush, you know, all this nonsense. So she went out and bought it. I think it was called. Was it a Yougo Larva or something like that?

>> Andy: 25:01

It was a 45, wasn't it? Was it a yougo 45?

>> Martin Hackett: 25:05

It might been. It look like an upside down boat. It was a funny little shape. It had like this weird little boot.

>> Jon: 25:10

What color?

>> Martin Hackett: 25:11

Navy blue with red pinstripes.

>> Jon: 25:13

Oay.

>> Martin Hackett: 25:13

And these little funny sort of silver metal hubcaps. It was a really, really basic car. But she didn't get on with it. It was really heavy steering. She didn't have it for long at all. She got rid of it. So, yeah, it wasn't something we, kept for long. And then o.

>> Andy: 25:28

You're right, they were co Zastava'bas's it.

>> Martin Hackett: 25:31

You go z zava ugly looking thing in t it.

>> Jon: 25:34

Yeah, yeah, it's like a small hatchbacky type thing. Boxym.

>> Martin Hackett: 25:38

has a little bo on it.

>> Andy: 25:39

Oh, there you go. Bit like that.

>> Jon: 25:40

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I've pad in my head.

>> Martin Hackett: 25:43

Yeah, it was like that. As I say, we didn't have that for long. So she went and just got another Fiesta and then she had that for a long time. And then we went to the upgrade for the Golf and this is where my first experience of driving happeneday. I don't know what I'm allowed to get away with on ev. But I will tell you what happened.

>> Andy: 25:59

As long as there's not any court cases outstanding.

>> Martin Hackett: 26:01

No, no, they didn't take me to court. My parents luckily.

>> Andy: 26:06

Okay, paint the picture. Tell us all about it.

>> Martin Hackett: 26:08

Right, so we just moved to a bungalow in Eastergate.

>> Andy: 26:12

u.

>> Martin Hackett: 26:12

They just had a one of those, you know, the prefab garages with the asbestos roofs.

>> Andy: 26:16

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 26:17

With the gravel on the outside. So they just had this lovely garage put in. My mum had finally Got a Golf that she wanted. So he got this really lovely navy blue eredge. Ah, cl. Beautiful. It was immaculate with like the standard blue interior that they had.

>> Andy: 26:33

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 26:33

Anyway, something my mum really wanted. Yeah. So we got that and she'd had it a short period and by this time I just thought, I think I'll be all right to drive. They'd gone out andm, I'd pop the garage open and she'd left the keys on the side and I thought it would be quite interesting to just reverse it up the drive. I was going to give it a wash and then maybe take it up and down the road.

>> Jon: 26:52

Fair enough.

>> Martin Hackett: 26:52

I wasn't old enough by the way. nowhere near. So what I decided to do was get in the car, started up and instead of going into reverse I went forward. So I actually went through the garage. I took the back end of this prefab garage out, smashed the whole front of her car up, got to the windscreen, smashed the windscreen and got out the car know. Yes. I couldn't even put the car back, try and fix anything. It was way too gone. So, yeah, I basically just had to wait till my parents come home to say, give me the vollicing of my life was, yeah, an understatement. So, yeah, I'd smash my mum's car up and then they kind of made me pay for it to damage over a long period of time. Which actually taught me a good thing with value of money to be fair.

>> Andy: 27:36

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 27:36

So, yeah, obviously they probably didn't charge me anywhere near what it would have cost to get everything fixed. But yeah, it definitely taught me a thing or two.

>> Andy: 27:45

Did she get it fixed or was it a right off?

>> Martin Hackett: 27:47

No, no, she got it fixed. No, luckily what had happened is the way this garage was bolted together and when'being bolted, it was literally bolted. I think I'DONE is the way driven into it. The bottom had come out first. So what it had done is it scraped all the roof line, scraped on the top of the front of the roof of the car, smashed the screen and then just damaged the front bumper. It demolished the bonnet like completely scraped all the bonnet up and the wing, top of the wing. So, from memory they had to get the bonnet, the wings, headlights and had to have the roof painted in a new windscreen and I think one of the mirrors as wellesh.

>> Jon: 28:17

Whoops.

>> Martin Hackett: 28:18

Yeah. But do you know what good comes out, of bad things because from that my uncle, he saw the funny side to it because he Was a bit of a comedian, my uncle, and he said, I'll tell you what, I'm going to teach to drive. So he basically taught me to drive in a, Toyota Hilux Indestructible. Exactly. That's what he said. He says, you won't be able to smash this up. So he used to take me up to Tangir airfield when you get on there and, you know, practice in that. And then going to Ford Airfield. And then crazy enough, he let me drive home from school one day. So, yeah, quite mad. But, yeah, there's me like, 14, 15, and my uncle s picked me up and he's gone, o, you can drive.

>> Andy: 28:55

Home in your school uniform.

>> Martin Hackett: 28:58

Yeah, exactly. Not that it was far, and just said, you know, whatever you do, don't tell your mum and dad. I was like, no, no, don't worry about that, you know, and don't even think they know to this day that it happened more than once as well. So that's how I learned to drive.

>> Andy: 29:11

You ve got a few weeks to tell them.

>> Martin Hackett: 29:13

Mar?ah exactly that.

>> Andy: 29:16

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 29:17

And then it was, I don't know where you want to go with this, but when you're ready, I'll go through my first experience of actually driving, because that wasn't very illegal either, but quite a good story, to be fair. So.

>> Andy: 29:29

Well, you've sort of. Yeah, sown the seed. We may as well let you continue.

>> Martin Hackett: 29:32

well, yeah, I'll try and not drag it out. So, basically, a friend of mine had passed his test before us slots, as he was a year above us. And, he got himself a blue Fiesta, exactly the same as the one my mum used to have.

>> Andy: 29:43

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 29:44

it failed its MOT and he couldn't afford to get it done and he didn't want to. Had a massive hole in the boot and it failed on a load of welding. So me and three friends decided to buy off himkay. We bought it off him for like, 150 quid and we paid 50 quid each for it. And we used to call it. I don't know if I'm allowed to say it, but we used to call it the Bitch. And basically, I have actually still got photos of this car somewhere. so what we did, we were sort of 15, 16 at the time. We decided we would leave it in Felam, because back then you could sort of have a car that wasn't technically mot, as long as you had an MOT certificate. But that's, you know, I won't give out that Information's another story. Exactly. so we used to park it up outside this place called Noggins. Do you remember Noggins? Johngin Felam. I think it's still open. You can make your own beer and wine. You've got the Chinese inf feam on the bend and the pizza place.

>> Jon: 30:36

I know you mean. Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 30:37

Cam too y. Yeah, exactly. So right opposite can too. There's that little park in area, isn't there?

>> Jon: 30:43

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the bays. Yeah, it's be a pet shop there.

>> Martin Hackett: 30:46

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, exactly. We used to leave it there between the three of us and we'd basically just take turns in driving to college. Not college sorry, school. Picking each other up, and going to Broutherford's in it.

>> Andy: 30:59

Fantastic.

>> Martin Hackett: 31:03

Yeah, that was kind of it. And how I really learned to drive because I think we had that car for about eight months.

>> Andy: 31:08

Wow.

>> Martin Hackett: 31:08

So we drove that car for eight months sort of literally everywhere. You know, bright and wor in Portsmouth, Easter clubbing in Portsmouth. And that's kind of how I actually properly learnedt to drive. So when I had lessons I was ready to go. I just picked up a few bad habits.

>> Andy: 31:24

And I guess your folks had absolutely no clue that you had this car stashed away. You were just popping out for the night. They thought you were down the beach or the park.

>> Martin Hackett: 31:31

Yeah. None of our parents had a clue because like I say, we literally just used to leave the key and we would take turns. We'd let each other know and that would be it. You know back then you had home phones as well, didn't you? See, you

would ring each other and just say, oh, I'll come and get you at 7: 31:43

00 and then we'll go to we and go to Rutherford'who's driving. We just take turns. I actually remember one night and this is actually God's onest truth and I've told this story many time we'd been at Rutherford's and the car wouldn't start and the police actually jump started us. As you can imagine, we were petrified. But they gave us a jump and let us go. So you know, pretty cool.

>> Andy: 32:06

You probably had a few beers as well.

>> Martin Hackett: 32:08

Yeah, yeah. Luckily it wasn't me behind the steering wheel at the time. It was a friend of mine. But yeah, I just remember them it sort of jumping us because we just couldn't get it going. So yeah, it's brilliant.

>> Jon: 32:17

Fantastic.

>> Martin Hackett: 32:17

Yeah.

>> Jon: 32:18

The way know I m back an eyelids to the car just being Parked up in the village just for sort of a week at a time.

>> Martin Hackett: 32:23

I they just wouldn't, would they? And you know, it was the thing with the tax, this thing, wasn't it? It's like insurance was a seven day wonder, you know, your cover note's all you needed was a cover note and your MOT wasn't online and your tax, this was. Well, that was sort of take a tax disc out of whatever or pret your own kind of thing. But yeah, that's what we did. So three of us learned to drive and we all passed our test first time. So that kind of been too bad.

>> Jon: 32:47

I bet he was filming in the Chinese losing a parking space all that time.

>> Martin Hackett: 32:51

Yeah's right. Yeah.

>> Andy: 32:52

You could have made a few quid delivering chowins.

>> Martin Hackett: 32:55

Yeah, exactly that. I mean, to be fair, it was always when we just wanted to go somewhere, you know, it was like, oh, we're going here tonight. Or you know, we used to go to Mansion House in it. And I remember like we've turned up, we got a fake ID to get into the club. We shouldn't be driving, you know, but we are. And and that's what we used to do. It was brilliant, fun.

>> Jon: 33:12

You should be behind bars. Martin. What's going on?

>> Martin Hackett: 33:14

I should be, yeah. yeah. Things were very different then though, aren't they?

>> Andy: 33:19

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 33:19

and then obviously when you do passially test, things obviously changed and I got very sensible.

>> Andy: 33:23

Do you think your parents or your grandparents choice of cars have influenced what you've got into?

>> Martin Hackett: 33:27

You know what? Possibly. I mean, I wouldn'say so much because my first car wasn't what any of them had and I think it was more the friends that I was sort of hanging around with at the time. Yeah, yeah, you know, I appreciate the cars they had, but yeah, as you know, Andy, I've sort of always gone for the German car. M For me, when I passed my test, it was more about what was the cheapest car I could insure, play around with and have fun with and modify. M and back when we first started to drive, there was only really one or two cars that you would do that with. And that's why, you know, I bought my first car was what it was. So. Yeah. What was your first car, andy?

>> Andy: 34:01

Well, there's two answers to it technically. When I was 14, I think basically I annoyed my mu I'o her so much that I wanted a car that she bought me a Reliant Robin.

>> Martin Hackett: 34:14

Brilliant. What a car.

>> Andy: 34:15

And it was in the Friday ad I'd been to look at a bele a couple years before with my stepdad at the time and, he decided it was a bit too far gone. I really wanted a Beatle. I used to read Volksworld and PVW and that sort of stuff. Yeah, Mum decided if she was going to buy me a car, she bought this Reliant Robin, which was a yellow freewheel van.

>> Jon: 34:32

Brilliant.

>> Andy: 34:32

The guy was downsizing to get a moped. He was in like a bed sit in Littleham. And, he had a friend who had one as well. My mum refused to drive it, so they delivered it around to our house the next day. I drove it up the drive, nearly put it through the garage door because I'd never driven before.

>> Martin Hackett: 34:46

I've heard that before.

>> Andy: 34:48

So I got there, the brakes weren't very good. Yeah. Just nudged the garage door and then. Yeah. Me and my friends painted it gloss black with U lux or withather shield because that was what was in the shed. Painted all the chrome, metallic blue. Smooth the boot over so you couldn't get in the back. I basically just put coach bolts it and smoothed it off. And then talking of XR3 eyes, I went to an auto jumble with my dad and found you d remember that, like the spoilers on the Escorts used to be a bit spongy.

>> Martin Hackett: 35:11

Yeah. The black rubble ones. I remember those. Yeah.

>> Andy: 35:14

Yeah. So I found one of those. I was like, I'm gonna have that. That was a fiverr or something. So I bought that and basically cut it in half and joined it again and bolted it to the roof.

>> Martin Hackett: 35:21

Right.

>> Andy: 35:22

So, yeah, that was my first car technically, although it never saw the road. We moved house and we had to get rid of it because it was parked on the driveway and we needed a skip. My mum was like, it's gott go. So, yeah, we got rid of it and the guy apparently raced it at Arlington. Really? Yeah. We went to go and watch it. We didn't see it go round. I was looking for a car with no hinges on the back. Right. Because obviously I'd cut them off.

>> Martin Hackett: 35:41

Yeah, yeah.

>> Andy: 35:42

But, didn't see it race. PNJ6 1 17R, I think was the Regt.

>> Martin Hackett: 35:47

Brilliant.

>> Andy: 35:47

My first actual car was a Mark 2 Polo Bread Van match, which my dad got me and he was like, oh, I've got you a car read. Yeah, red one.

>> Martin Hackett: 35:55

Yeah, I remember.

>> Andy: 35:56

Yeah, he got me that. When he told me, I was like, it's not one of them ones that looks like a hearse, is it? He was like, yeah, yeah. My mum had a brown mark one Astra three door for a while.

>> Martin Hackett: 36:06

Yeah.

>> Andy: 36:06

When I was like 15, I thought, oh, this is going to be a wicked first car, three door, 1300 or something.

>> Martin Hackett: 36:12

Yeah, cool car three, man.

>> Andy: 36:13

this could be kind of GTE replica. it's just kind of crying out for coolness. I'd started putting stickers on it and things and then they got rid of that. But yeah, my dad bought me this Mark 2 Polo Bread van, red one. And then you. I spent years messing around with it.

>> Martin Hackett: 36:28

Brilliant. What about you, John?

>> Jon: 36:29

Same as Andy. Mark two bread van.

>> Martin Hackett: 36:32

Oh, is that how you two met?

>> Andy: 36:34

We met. Said shopping destination course, right.

>> Martin Hackett: 36:38

Ye, yeah.

>> Jon: 36:38

It's a really good car. I wish I'd kept it, to be honest. Yeah, peoplebably would have seen it around Martin, no doubt. It's like a sort of maroon, dark red.

>> Martin Hackett: 36:45

I'm sure I would have done.

>> Jon: 36:47

Good little thing.

>> Martin Hackett: 36:47

Yeah, yeah. Anything Volkswagen I'd have had my eyes on, you know.

>> Andy: 36:51

Anything else we need to ask you, Martin, as we start wrp it up.

>> Martin Hackett: 36:54

My first car, believe it or not, was a Mini.

>> Andy: 36:56

Fantastic. I have had a Mini. I've got unfinished business with Mini. Have you still got this ridiculous Mini?

>> Martin Hackett: 37:01

No, I had to get rid of it. It was death trap. It was too powerful, mate. I mean, 225 horsepower in a 650 kilo car was just too much.

>> Jon: 37:11

Jesus. What sort of Mini are we talking?

>> Andy: 37:13

An old classic one?

>> Martin Hackett: 37:15

Yeah, yeah, It'an integrity Type R engine miniion and it had been stripped out and it was mental, absolutely mental thing. But yeah, my first Mini that had like a body kit on it and I remember buying it off a mate of mine who'd sort of half finished it and I got it before I could drive and it was in my mum and dad's garage and I used to just spend most of my weekends in there doing bits to it, putting stickers on it like you did. Sunst strip. I got my old speakers from my house, big old Sony ones, and then wired them under the carpet so they would go in there. No space for anyone in the back because that's all I had was the old Sony CD player and bought myself a set of Revolution wheels for it. And yeah, that was my baby for years. it was pretty unreliable, it would always break down. But then to be fair, that taught me a lot about working on cars because the engine came out and I ended up going from that to lots and lots of Minis and built loads of Minis over my years, you know, loads and loads. But then I had a Mini that went wrong badly and ied up. That's what got me into the Gulfs. I ended up buying Golf and realizing, why on earth have I've been messing around with Minies all this time? Mean dos reliable.

>> Andy: 38:17

And that's what happened even after this one. Would you have another min.

>> Martin Hackett: 38:20

Not ever now? No, no, I'm done.

>> Andy: 38:22

Done.

>> Martin Hackett: 38:22

It didn't feel safe, to be fair. They're just so now. No, I think just cars are so big now on the road, it just. No, I don't think I could do it, mate. And I think for the money they demand, they're just such. Yeah, it's like the Beetle. I mean, don't me wrong the Beetles, you know betterh buil I have said. But they, just don't feel safe. So I just decided I didn't have it for long, as you know, But I only needed to drive it twice to tell myself that this isn't a car that I can have, not with children and a family. It's just. No.

>> Andy: 38:50

Yeaheah.

>> Martin Hackett: 38:50

There wouldn't have been any point in driving it like Miss Daisy. It just wasn't that sort of car. But every time you drove it up the road, it wanted to take you into a ditch or a bush. So I just thought, now this isn't for me, I'll let a lunatic take it on.

>> Andy: 39:01

That was that really fantastic. We'll wrap it up. Thank you very much for joining us. It's been good fun.

>> Martin Hackett: 39:06

Yeah, thanks very much. I mean, like I say, hopefully it was entertaining enough.

>> Andy: 39:10

Absolutely.

>> Martin Hackett: 39:11

It's been good to be on it and, I've enjoyed it. So keep up the good work, chaps. It's brilliant.

>> Andy: 39:16

Cool. Thank you very much, mate.

>> Jon: 39:17

Thanks, Ma. Nice to meet you.

>> Martin Hackett: 39:18

Yeah. Andrew, mate. And I'll no doubtly see you again. I mean, we might have even met, who knows?

>> Jon: 39:23

Probably.

>> Martin Hackett: 39:23

Yeah.

>> Jon: 39:24

Well, I probably, like, sold you some wipers or something.

>> Martin Hackett: 39:28

Something like that, yeah. Cool. All right then. Well, thanks ever so much and, we'll catch up soon, yeah, yeah, yeah, indeed.

>> Andy: 39:35

Yeah. Look after yourself.

>> Jon: 39:36

Cheers. Bye. Bye.

>> Andy: 39:38

That was good fun.

>> Jon: 39:39

Yeah. Lots of good stories. Lots of good cars.

>> Andy: 39:42

Yeah. Some nice driving stories as well. We had obviously, kind of going back a few, series. We had Rupert, didn't we? He was driving his dad's Carah, kind of up and down the drive and then this is almost a step further. Driving to nightclubs.

>> Jon: 39:53

Yeah.

>> Andy: 39:54

Owning a Fiesta with a consortium of friends.

>> Jon: 39:56

That's something Nice, isn't there about. Obviously it was breaking the law but just back then I don't know why, but it just sort of seems it's a good harmless fun, isn't it really.

>> Andy: 40:06

A bit of a charming crime.

>> Jon: 40:08

Yeah.

>> Martin Hackett: 40:09

Yeah.

>> Andy: 40:10

Oh, they didn't mean any harm by it. No. it's that one gets hurt.

>> Jon: 40:14

Yeah. It's good. Good to hear.

>> Andy: 40:16

Yeah. I think we have had Granadas come up before, haven't we? Obviously we've had a few kind of cigarette endorsed stories as well.

>> Jon: 40:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Andy: 40:25

Which yeah. I'm sure you can't do cigarette advertising on anything these days.

>> Jon: 40:28

I wouldn't have thought so but u.

>> Andy: 40:30

It'd be hilarious if there was a loophole for podcasts.

>> Jon: 40:33

Yes.

>> Andy: 40:33

Somehow we ended up with a

>> Jon: 40:35

Probably be some sort of vape conversion advert, wouldn't it now?

>> Andy: 40:39

Yeah, I guess so.

>> Jon: 40:40

Yeah.

>> Andy: 40:40

I don't really endure smoking but yeah, Iite don't endors sayither.

>> Jon: 40:43

Not for me.

>> Andy: 40:44

Yeah, that's probably worse.

>> Jon: 40:45

I think so. Yeah. Certainly looks more stupid in my opinion.

>> Andy: 40:51

Yes.

>> Jon: 40:51

No offense to all the vapours out there.

>> Andy: 40:53

Yeah. That's half our audience.

>> Jon: 40:55

We've got a strong vape community.

>> Andy: 40:57

Oh no. So yeah, that was good. Yeah. The u peppermint green Fiesta from the auction as well. I see here mention of auctions.

>> Jon: 41:05

I hope we can find the picture of that Fiesta.

>> Andy: 41:08

Yeah, that'd be quite cool, wouldn't it?

>> Jon: 41:09

Because I can't really PA in my mind this color or Well I can sort of identify the Porsche equivalent that he mentioned.

>> Andy: 41:16

Yeah, that's why I'm picturing. But yeah, whether it is that I don't know. So yeah, that was cool. Obviously the, the faux par of driving the Gulf through the garage which we've had a few cars going through garage I think even was it Rob's granddad put car through the garage?

>> Jon: 41:31

Yes. I think on episode one I believe.

>> Andy: 41:34

Then we had Sam whose mum drove a Rolls Royce through the garage.

>> Jon: 41:38

Yeah. seems to be a bit of a theme in the 80s 90s of driving through garages.

>> Andy: 41:42

Yeah. Maybe the gear sticks just weren't labeled as clearly as they are now.

>> Jon: 41:46

Yeah, just forget, just whoops.

>> Andy: 41:51

Occasionally need get in the car, don't you? Oh yeah, don't need to do that. I wouldn't know.

>> Jon: 41:56

I've not driven a manual for for such a long time for like 10 years probably.

>> Andy: 42:00

So yeah.

>> Jon: 42:01

I think it's hard as to do it in an auto.

>> Andy: 42:03

Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. You've got kind of a linear system and then it comes up on the dash as well doesn't it Normally. Where. Where you going? U What else did we have in there? Some. Some good music as well. Wasn't there was Frank Sinatra and then his mum. Yeah, his mum was kind of into the 80s stuff.

>> Jon: 42:19

Great stuff. Yeah. Estheran Wham.

>> Andy: 42:21

Yeah. Wonderful. You could kind of just in your.

>> Jon: 42:23

Mind'S eye I can see picture.

>> Andy: 42:25

Yeah. Peppermint Fiesta.

>> Jon: 42:26

Yeah.

>> Andy: 42:27

Shoulder pads.

>> Jon: 42:28

Yeah. Yeah.

>> Andy: 42:28

Window down Pam Bit of peroxide.

>> Jon: 42:32

That's it. Chewing some gum or something like that.

>> Andy: 42:36

Rig le yeah yeah, yeah absolutely. So yeah, some good stories from that. Enjoyed that one.

>> Jon: 42:42

Yeah, that was a good one.

>> Andy: 42:43

And Yeah, be good to get that one done. Cool. Well, thank you very much, John.

>> Jon: 42:46

Thanks for having me.

>> Andy: 42:47

Yeah, been good fun and Yeah, we'll wrap it up and roll the credits.

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